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Offline hammer1

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 04:41:42 PM »
Slightly off topic here.

I recently went on a weekend Haven holiday break on the coast with the clang.  I was slightly surprised that the detector in our cabin was not working, even more surprised the carbon monoxide detector was not working. Found out during the weekend this was the norm with most of the cabins.

Now if you consider the risk at these places with the above not being in place (thinking more when the occupants are sleeping and the very slack compartmentation in place (most have gas cookers not electrical).

Surely these kind of places get regularly checked by enforcing authorities????

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 04:52:51 PM »
Slightly off topic here.

I recently went on a weekend Haven holiday break on the coast with the clang.  I was slightly surprised that the detector in our cabin was not working, even more surprised the carbon monoxide detector was not working. Found out during the weekend this was the norm with most of the cabins.

Now if you consider the risk at these places with the above not being in place (thinking more when the occupants are sleeping and the very slack compartmentation in place (most have gas cookers not electrical).

Surely these kind of places get regularly checked by enforcing authorities????
There has been discussion on this matter in the past as to their status ie. single family dwellings or otherwise. Maybe someone can turn it up.
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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 05:05:46 PM »
Slightly off topic here.

I recently went on a weekend Haven holiday break on the coast with the clang.  I was slightly surprised that the detector in our cabin was not working, even more surprised the carbon monoxide detector was not working. Found out during the weekend this was the norm with most of the cabins.

Now if you consider the risk at these places with the above not being in place (thinking more when the occupants are sleeping and the very slack compartmentation in place (most have gas cookers not electrical).

Surely these kind of places get regularly checked by enforcing authorities????

Hi Hammer

I cant be 100% sure on this but Ive a feeling that this would fall under the Local Authority's remit. If so you will find unfortunately that County / Shire councils dont have the resources comparible to larger metro / city councils thus you will find there are only a handful of enforcement officers to cover such a large area.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 10:12:51 PM »
 ???

RP is someone with control of premises, you pay to stay in these places as you would with B&B's. Hotels etc. You have no control of these premises (i.e you don't bring a detector with you for your stay).  Same with staying at caravan parks. If you owned cabin/caravan then I totally agree about the private dwelling/outside FSO limits.

It also mention chalets, holiday parks in the sleeping accommodation guidance document.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 10:31:40 PM »
Yes it does mention chalets in the sleeping acocmmodation guidance, I know there are numerous opinions on this, I have heard Dr Rosemary Everton give her views on this- her view at the time was that they are not domestic premises and therfore are subject to the Order. I dont think the DCLG have given any further guidance on this yet.

Another angle is trading standards. Certainly in terms of furniture, gas installations etc the supply of these goods in rented accommodation in the course of a business is considered to be a hire transaction and is coverd by all the consumer safety legislation and specific safety regulations. This is the concern of the county trading standards department, whilst serious property defects would be dealt with by the environmental health officer if a tenant may be at risk of injury.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2009, 01:38:11 AM »
yes it does mention holiday parks but only refers to the communal areas, fire points, means for calling fire service and such like. It does not apply to the chalet themselves