Grade A and beyond

[Mike Buckley]

The question with an Ambassador's residence is is it subject to diplomatic immunity. I can't find anything  in the RRO except

Application to visiting forces, etc.

51. This Order applies to a visiting force or an international headquarters or defence
organisation designated for the purposes of the International Headquarters and Defence
Organisations Act 1964(a) only to the extent that it applies to the Crown.

On the other hand you have been asked to advise therefore they want it.

My feeling would be treat it as a hotel.

[Golden]

Yes its interesting with respect to 'immunity' - I recently carried out an FRA on an embassy and couldn't find any reason to state that it didn't come under the RRO.

WRT the original question I wouldn't view this as an issue of compliance but as the best protection that could be afforded with regard to visitor safety combined with the aesthetics of the building. I'd be looking at good AFD coverage and don't think there's much difference between part 1 or 6 but what level of protection you specify and how you are going to achieve that protection. I can't imagine that the occupiers are going to want obtrusive fittings so you may need some research to find a suitable system.

[nearlythere]

Yes its interesting with respect to 'immunity' - I recently carried out an FRA on an embassy and couldn't find any reason to state that it didn't come under the RRO.

WRT the original question I wouldn't view this as an issue of compliance but as the best protection that could be afforded with regard to visitor safety combined with the aesthetics of the building. I'd be looking at good AFD coverage and don't think there's much difference between part 1 or 6 but what level of protection you specify and how you are going to achieve that protection. I can't imagine that the occupiers are going to want obtrusive fittings so you may need some research to find a suitable system.

I think it does come under. It just cant be prosecuted.

[colin todd]

I bet Alex the Fish wont let the Lousy Flipping Extra Pathetic Authority into the Scottish embassy in London once we have one.

[Mr. P]

Now, that will be something to see. What a visitor attraction it could be! Should be interesting doing a new build or major refurb to house them. Just hink of the arguments over which regs will apply or be most onerous!

[Clevelandfire 3]

Yes its interesting with respect to 'immunity' - I recently carried out an FRA on an embassy and couldn't find any reason to state that it didn't come under the RRO.

Quite right. but be careful may be a building owned by our government which has been leased to a foreign power
, when i say leased don't take it as leased but like almost given to them. well not given to them but you know what i mean. there are reciprical arrangements with those powers. a diplomat may have diplomatic immunity. dont mean the premises does. lets see what big man font of all knowledge colin todd sez about that. bet he has an answer thats helpful and informative.

[Mike Buckley]

Yes it would have to be a big building, just think of all those people who suddenly become natives of a foreign non Eu country who will require work permits, visas etc.

[Owain]

Yes it would have to be a big building, just think of all those people who suddenly become natives of a foreign non Eu country who will require work permits, visas etc.

Scotland?

[colin todd]

Perhaps, when we get independence, we can invade the North and take over Cleveland.  By the way where have you been Clevers?

[Golden]

Colin, when you get independence the north will be the south.

[David Rooney]

Thanks for responses men, obviously no one has any money to spend on fire detection as we are all broke so they will only pay for the minimum needed.

Hence the key questions that I see remain ....

In these circumstances is 85db at the family bedroom doors acceptable as per reasons of familiarity given in pt 6

75db in guests / staff rooms is taken as read

The usual 60 - 65 db around the general living spaces  ...... yes or no??

Possibility of deaf guests - should we consider beacons in WCs as Part M .... is it a requirement or a nicety in this case??

[Clevelandfire 3]

Perhaps, when we get independence, we can invade the North and take over Cleveland.  By the way where have you been Clevers?

Would you want it? its proper grim.thanks for asking dotty ive been cashing in all the NI ive paid to the NHS all these years by taking board at my local hospital. food was bad but nurses great.

David 60-65dBA should be ok. Unless its going to cost the earth fit beacons in the bathrooms. what provision you putting in for deaf guests elsewhere?

[nearlythere]

If and when Caladonia gets UDI will all the invaders be shipped back south and made to reapply for a work permit?

[David Rooney]

There is no requirement to cater for deaf guests .... tis our discretion / design.

[Clevelandfire 3]

just wondering why you would install beacons in bathrooms when you are not making provision anywhere else? you looking at buddy system ?