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Offline wee brian

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« on: August 31, 2005, 07:33:05 AM »
Have any of you guys had any experience, nasty or otherwise, with fires in self storage buildings?

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 08:49:33 AM »
No, but I have an interest as I have left a pile of stuff in my garage since I moved in hoping it would self store, but to no avail.

Actually , now I come to think about it, maybe these place are actually buildings that fold themselves up and put themselves away?
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2005, 12:42:04 PM »
In case anybody is unsure what "self storage" is, i will attempt to explain:

A wharehouse type building subdivided into various sized lockups. Customers can rent a lockup in the building and are given 24hr access to it.

There are no effective controls on what is stored because you so it yourself. Hence self storage.

There are concerns that these buildings will have a fire load similar to a conventional warehouse but with a complex layout of corridors serving the lockups. There is no fire resisting seperation.

ODPM are proposing to introduce some provisions in ADB and I wondered if anybody had actually had a problem in one.

If anybody has worked out how to get a garage to tidy itself up, this would also be of intrest!

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2005, 01:57:20 PM »
Sorry Wee B I knew what they were I was just making light of the title, whcih I always think literally of when I see it!

Similar examples are
'Self-drive car/van/lorry hire' where there is always a driver operating the vehicle, so it doesn't drive itself at all!
'I taught myself' - how can you teach yourself as, I assume, in ordert to require teaching you are in a 'don't yet know it' position. It should be I learned it myself.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 05:09:36 PM »
Just to wander off the topic a bit longer, why do some divorced women describe themselves as 'single mothers'.  Surely every mother is a single mum- It would be interesting to meet a double or triple mother.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 05:16:49 PM »
I attended one in the East end of Glasgow quite a while back and it was a nightmare!
Loads of storage areas approx 5m x 4m within the ground floor of a 4 storey brick building of approx 200m by 40m.

The ceiling was about 4metres high and the separation of each unit was corrugated steel sheeting to about 3metres, so the fire spread over the tops of all the  storage areas and ignited them!

We had to take in a jet and bolt cutters to gain entry to each unit and it was so hot, i got my helmet burnt! ( the last thing i wanted was a burnt helmet!)
Took about a day and a half to put out, so to answer your question, yes, I had a problem in one.......

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 06:59:35 PM »
I trust that Mr Sweeney made you pay for the helmet. Please try to be more careful with the ratepayers property.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 09:03:16 PM »
Single parent is even better, the only (maybe) exapmle was Mary - a virgin birth. All other known examples of childbirth have involved two parents!
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 10:23:53 PM »
As well as the layout is the risk (I would have thought) that if it is indeed not controlled is the potential for a myriad of hazardous substances to be stored without warning notices with the risk of something unexpectedly going BOOM!
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2005, 05:29:34 PM »
Billy, did you use a BA guide line?

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2005, 05:49:46 PM »
Don't get him started on guidleines please! I, and others, will only have to disagree with him again.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2005, 05:59:20 PM »
Oh no not again Billy

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2005, 09:43:39 AM »
Didn't use Guidelines because we couldn't feel the tabs with our gloves on and had nowhere to tie them off!

I wonder what we could do to sort that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriously, we had to try and follow submerged 45mm hose and came out eventually after going the wrong way and finding another BA team on a jet instead of the exit we were looking for.
We then came out of the nearest exit which was round the other side of the building.
This incident was over 15 years ago, just before Gillender Street, and the phrase "there but the grace of God" springs to mind.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005, 09:54:26 AM »
So you got lost in there?

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2005, 03:01:48 PM »
Yes we did !

Too much hose going along too many corridors and all were under about 6 inches of water.
We thought we knew where we went wrong though, and got back to that point, but ended up the wrong away again!

We did have loads of air left though, and I personally felt that I wasn't in any danger - in hindsight, we probably could have been in trouble as there was a charged line of hose going right down the full length  of the main corridor inside!