BB 100 Consultation 2016

[Revol]

Any one seen this? BAFSA newsletter quotes it as underway but I cant find it ...  https://consult.education.gov.uk/

[Tom Sutton]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/building-bulletin-100-design-for-fire-safety-in-schools surely they are not considering a consultation after two years?

[kurnal]

It appears to be a very old news story Tom, the consultation link does not work. There appears to be a problem with proof reading- see the story on the Derbyshire sprinkler initiative, the last sentence of which is a caption for a photograph that does not exist.

[Revol]

 See page 5 from BAFSA News letter July 2016 ...  http://www.bafsa.org.uk/pdfs/publications/1/00000151.pdf

[Tom Sutton]

The article in the news letter states "Published in 2007, BB 100 advised on how to design school buildings so that they satisfy Building Regulations Part B, (Fire Safety).        

Published in 2007 is the old one the 2014 version is the new one, so as Kurnal has said old news.

[Fishy]

I do happen to know that they are most definitely working on a revision as we speak, though a quick trawl through the internet reveals only this: http://thespaces.org.uk/bb100-fire-safety-design-schools/ .  The embedded link to the consultation document doesn't work, though.

[wee brian]

https://consult.education.gov.uk/capital/6b8c2667

this is not old news, BB100 out for consultation now! closes 15 August.

[Revol]

https://consult.education.gov.uk/capital/6b8c2667

this is not old news, BB100 out for consultation now! closes 15 August.

Well done on finding it! ... seems to have been squirreled away in the depths of cyber space.

[wee brian]

From a quick scan its mostly a refresh of the old BB100.

four obvious changes;

they've downgraded the expectation on fire suppression for property protection. from "we expect it" to "its not a bad idea",

removed the requirement for a fire door at the end of a dead end corridor,

adopted ADB compartment sizes (much bigger than the old BB100),

and referenced BS 9999 as an acceptable alternative.

[Tom Sutton]

Which version Brian the 2007 or the 2014?

[wee brian]

which version of what?

[Tom Sutton]

Building Bulletin 100 - Design for fire safety in schools. The 2007 version http://www.ribabookshops.com/item/building-bulletin-100-design-for-fire-safety-in-schools/63103/ or the 2014 version https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/building-bulletin-100-design-for-fire-safety-in-schools.

[wee brian]

I'm talking about the consultation draft. the 2014 version and the 2007 version are the same document with different covers.

[Auntie LIn]

As you say, it's been exceedingly well hidden - I only got to know about it the day the 'consultation' closed - 15 August.

Serious bad news for the fire door industry in that it's trying to say everyone must use BS EN 1634 tested doorsets.   At least Building Regs acknowledge the wealth of data and experience that BS476:  Part 22 has given everyone - and who knows - will Brexit see the back of 1634? (or at least the requirement to CE mark?)

[kurnal]

"Sprinklers may not be a bad idea"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37148332

The fire commander described it as a challenging fire- early to say of course but looks like it's the same old story of rapid fire spread in voids and a lack of compartmentation?