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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on March 26, 2025, 06:00:57 PM »
Anthony

We had a fire stopping contractor visit the site to price things up for remediation and he brought along some sort of fire stopping expert to advise on the fire stopping requirements.

When looking in one of the cupboards inside one of the flats he made a comment on the plastic access hatch to access the hidden sewer vent pipe (SVP) and said they need to me metal. He made no comment on the plastic electrical distribution box in the same cupboard. The hatch is located in a fire rated cupboard with FD30S doors fitted.

Is he correct in stating the access hatch needs to be metal instead of plastic? I have attached photo so can see what I am referring to.

regards

Joey
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on March 26, 2025, 04:52:27 PM »
Hi Anthony

Please find photo's attached as requested. I have spoken to a plasterer and he can't see why they haven't plastered to the top of the walls.
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by AnthonyB on March 20, 2025, 09:10:46 PM »
Do you have any photos?

A service riser can be a protected shaft and open at each floor with no horizontal seal, but the vertical walls (& doors/hatches in them) should be complete and of the correct fire resistance.

Missing/incomplete inner plasterboard layers to walls of riser shafts is a not uncommon defect in modern builds, usually corner cutting where no one will see.
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Q & A / Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on March 20, 2025, 07:48:14 AM »
I have been checking the compartmentation of service risers and have noticed that the plasterboard don't reach the ceiling in any of them. Is there a reason for this or is this just shoddy workmanship?
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Technical Advice / Re: Heritage Buildings
« Last post by wee brian on February 06, 2025, 09:32:50 PM »
english heritage published some stuff on doors that might be worth looking at.  TBH heritage trumped compartmentation in Windsor Castle and Notre Dame.
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General Interest / Re: FRA Accreditation/Cert/Register costs
« Last post by AnthonyB on January 15, 2025, 10:00:46 PM »
BAFE will be ?2k or ?3k (or more if you have loads of staff) initially then you will drop at least ?1k a year keeping it.
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General Interest / FRA Accreditation/Cert/Register costs
« Last post by Karissa on January 15, 2025, 06:06:56 PM »
Hi all
I'm trying to compare the costs for joining the various fire risk assessor registers/accreditation/cert schemes, but the costs tend to be hidden or difficult to find. Does anyone have the recent costs for them all?

IFE register ?780.80 application ?547.53 annual fee
IFSM ?102 membership fee ?66/?250/?600 application ?70 annual fee (+?250 every three years)
IFPO ??
BAFE SP205 ??

Thanks :)
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Technical Advice / Heritage Buildings
« Last post by bevfs on January 02, 2025, 11:32:18 AM »
Morning all
Heritage doors in  regency period  building circa early 1820's
looking for any evidence of "self closing -type devices" fitted to heritage doorsets to improve the compartmentation in a heritage building, or alternative solutions .If there is any past reports published on such matters where the importance of fire compartmentation has outweighed the importance of heritage protection

any info would be welcomed
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Q & A / Re: En 50133 and fire alarms releasing access doors
« Last post by AnthonyB on December 10, 2024, 08:27:26 PM »
I've answered on firealarmengineers.com
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Q & A / En 50133 and fire alarms releasing access doors
« Last post by alonso on December 10, 2024, 07:00:07 PM »
Anyone got anything definite on en50133 and the need for fire alarms to release external doors? We used to have double pole green breakglasses inside and no link from the fire alarm to release external doors as it was judged a security risk. (Fire alarms could release internal doors only) We've been told that due to a new revision of en 50133 we now have to have fire alarms releasing the external doors. Anyone got an excerpt of en50133 I could quote from regarding this? A specific clause relating to this topic?



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