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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by Messy on June 13, 2023, 12:15:51 PM »
You still around then????


I thought the same about you Colin when I saw your post

I would have thought you would have been elevated to the House of Lords by now, or did Boris overlook you too?   ;)
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Suppers, the voice of wisdom as always. You still around then????

Still a regular visitor.
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by colin todd on June 11, 2023, 01:56:50 AM »
Suppers, the voice of wisdom as always. You still around then????
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by colin todd on June 11, 2023, 01:55:28 AM »
Brian, I know your school was good because it was approved, but did they really teach you latin???? Your speliing is as perfect as all your previous work for your previous employer if I may be so bold as to say so.
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Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by wee brian on June 07, 2023, 12:09:10 PM »
Thats good to know, what does it say?
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Fire Risk Assessments / Re: Identifying PU Foams
« Last post by AnthonyB on June 03, 2023, 08:29:58 PM »
It's very difficult as there is no standard identification method - whilst several manufacturer's use pink dye, some use green or blue and I've found some that are yellow just like non FR foams.

Whilst not infallible from the different manufacturer evidence I've seen over the years if it's aerosol can type expanding foam then generally if it's being used for anything other than very small linear gaps (not penetrations to said gaps) and narrow gaps to door frames (often capped to 10mm with mastic) then there's a very good chance it is an incorrect use that will fail spectacularly early (as graphically illustrated in the ASFP video).

Gun applied cartridge single & 2 pack non aerosol 'foams' such as specialist products from Hilti, Mulcol and others generally have a much wider scope of use including service penetrations and much larger holes and visually look quite different.

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Fire Risk Assessments / Identifying PU Foams
« Last post by Stobswellpond on June 02, 2023, 09:58:19 PM »
I have received a FRA from an assessor who has highlighted in a building that is 14 years old the the application of PU foam may not have been correctly used, and that by contacting a passive fire protection installer they should be able to verify if the PU foam has been correctly used. Do you think that by looking at a foam you can verify the type and manufacturer and thus verify if it has been used correctly?
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Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by lyledunn on May 27, 2023, 08:31:49 PM »
My question had its roots in an ambiguous requirement for protected escape routes in BS7671A2 2022. However, a corrigendum was released by IET just this month to clarify the situation. All now reasonably clear.
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Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by wee brian on May 26, 2023, 04:43:16 PM »
In an open plan office the whole floor is an escape route - doesn't really make sense but that's codes for you
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by wee brian on May 26, 2023, 04:42:17 PM »
The principle is simple enough

Resi care - operator acts loco parentis (I may have spelt this wrong) - eg the care home operator is directly responsible for the residents like parents are for their kids.
A such the staff should have a plan to evacuate the residents as appropriate - fire service rescue is the back up when that doesn't work

Specialised housing - people live under their own steam (kind of) and nobody is responsible for looking after them 24/7.
If they cant evacuate themselves, then they need to be rescued.

It gets a bit muddy around the edges cos people play silly beggars

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